Not just food
In order to illustrate Collings & Herrin Podcast Number 39 we have been replaced by our own lunches (left to right): Marks & Spencer chilli and coriander king prawns; Marks & Spencer nutritionally balance super-whole food salad; Marks & Spencer freshly prepared pineapple, mango, kiwi, raspberry & blueberry; Andrew's homemade organic chilli with courgettes, artichokes, pepper, coriander, spinach and broccoli; Andrew's homemade organic, wheat-free plum, apple and sultana crumble. Which looks best? You decide. The podcast is equally two-sided: some of it looks good and aspirational but is oddly tasteless, some of it looks unpromising but is actually very nutritious and tasty. Again, you decide.
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Does you chilli have meat in it? If not, it doesn't do it for me. I'm not a fan of veggie versions of food that traditionally has meat in. The crumble sounds good, but hold the sultanas.
The chilli has organic minced beef in it. I like the sultanas as they obviate the need for too much added sugar. I'm afraid we've eaten all of it now.
"The podcast is equally two-sided: some of it looks good and aspirational but is oddly tasteless, some of it looks unpromising but is actually very nutritious and tasty."
You need some judicious editing, Andrew.
The fruit looks nice though.
You were a guest at Richard's house and he made you bring your own lunch?
For that, you should deny him privileges.
Andrew's homemade organic chilli with courgettes, artichokes, pepper, coriander, spinach and broccoli sounds terrific - will it be in the new Andrew Collings' cookbook? A stocking filler if ever there was one...
Not if it photographs like that, Kirstie!
(Stephen, you have to remember I'm a guest in Richard's house every week - he can't feed me as well as provide tap water.)
What flour do you use for your wheat free crumble, Andrew?
Since you ask, Anonymous (please tell us your name, or made-up name - it's only polite), I use rye or rice flour, whichever I've got in. To be honest, it's OK when you first cook it, but the next day, straight out of the fridge, the crumble tends to be a bit hard. I seem to remember crumble with wheat flour stayed crumbly when cold. Unless I'm post-rationalising. Anyway, it still tastes nice cold, it just needs cutting up a bit with the spoon. I suspect that's just the way the non-gluten flour sets.
Oh you poor soul Andy. When using proper flour, crumble improves when left in the fridge. It's almost worth cooking a fresh one, and not eating it fresh.
I now have Lorraine Bowen's Crubmle Song going around my head (http://www.lorrainebowen.co.uk/).
chilli sounds marvellous apart from the beef. Sultanas are ace for sweetening. The marks and spencer stuff all has something I'm allergic to in it so qualifies as toxic in my book.
So toxic v marvellous.
Well, without being sycophantic, my vote goes for the homemade every time. If nothing else I suspect Richard's lunchbox costs much more than your's. (I find dates make for a good sugar substitute but maybe not in that particular dish).
"I suspect that's just the way the non-gluten flour sets" - nicely sidesteps "thats just the way the crumble crumbles".
Off to listen...
How do you incorporate artichokes into a chilli? I thought you just peel the leaves off artichokes, waggle them about in some butter, and suck at them going "mmm, delicious" while thinking "these taste like leaves". Maybe I've been going wrong all these years?
The trick with artichokes is simple: buy them in a jar. I have tried cooking them from raw before but disappointment followed. Let someone else do it, find some in a nice olive oil, and then use the olive oil, gradually, to cook with, rather than waste it as the artichokes go down.
listening to the podcast, I don't think I do know the "comedy hand-grenade" bean soup joke.
maybe I'm too young.
Is this the healthy version, or do you never turn up with a sausage roll? You're like the Pope of food.
Andrew's lunch sounds both delicious, healthy and filling. Also suitably autumnal. I like a man who cooks!
Richard's lunch, apart from being hugely overpriced, sounds nice but rather insubstantial - the sort of thing that would have me reaching for a sneaky Kit-kat mid-afternoon...
K
Off the subject of poddery, did you see Special Needs Pets on C4 last night, Andrew?
Knowing your views on sore-footed pigeons I think this would have both broken and melted your heart.
Hey, K, no-one except a saint is immune to the lure of a sneaky Kit-Kat mid-afternoon! I have, in the past, handed over large sums of money to Marks & Spencer for what was pretty much always a disappointing sandwich, or pot of pasta salad. It's good that they've taken out much of the artificial stuff and hydrogenated fat from their food, but as long as you remember that it's fast food, as much as Burger King is fast food, we can all get along fine. It's not morally superior to carry a packed lunch, and some mornings, carting it around in my bag can feel like an act of pennance - as indeed is eating it in the British Library, where certain dining areas are reserved for food bought on the premises. But the money you save - and the food you do not waste - is reason enough.
Oh, and my lunches are tasty! Today I have leftover chicken and potatoes, with a bit of fatty gravy. And the last of my fruit crumble, which no longer qualifies as crumble at all - it's more of a big fat biscuit with some fruit stuck to the underside. Yummo.
And Joseph, the old joke it this:
Customer: What's this?
Waiter: Bean soup.
Customer: I don't care what it's bean, what is it now?
Ha ha!
Customer walks into a butcher who is standing with his back to a radiator.
Customer "Is that yer Ayrshire Bacon?"
Butcher "No I'm just warming me hands"
For Scottish reader only obviously
Hoops McCann
Hi Andrew, Just listened to the podcast, excellent as always!
Just to pick up on the Max Mosley question 'what difference does it make to formula one what he does in his private life'.
He is the head of the FIA, which runs F1, it also represents motor sport organisations around the world including Germany and countries in the Middle East both of which would be appalled at even the suggestion of a Nazi element in his private life.
I agree that the media should not have intruded into his private life as they did but at the end of the day he paid people for sex, prostitution is still illegal in the UK I believe (whether it's kinky, Nazi or missionary). If he had been the head of any other multinational organisation he would have been forced to resign. He managed to get a vote of confidence by bullying smaller federations into voting for him.
To answer the podcast question (which you probably didn't really want an answer to!), this kind of scandal obviously effects sponsorship and could potentially effect viewing figures. It's also made it difficult for him to do his job as VIP's from very religious countries don't want to be seen with him.
I'll admit like most people who like F1, I can't stand the man and was hoping this would be the end of him!
Cheers
Colin
I know very little about F1, as you can probably guess, Colin. However, what he did in the privacy of a private residence only became a scandal because the News Of The World secretly filmed it, which was an invasion of his privacy. They span the "Nazi" angle because of who his father was, and it turned out, in court, to have been spurious. It seems to have been a prison role-play he was involved in, with women from an escort agency.
Prostitution itself is not illegal in the UK - brothels, soliciting, kerbcrawling and streetwalking are, none of which apply to this instance.
Mosley was educated in Germany as a young man - he speaks German. It's not necessarily Nazi to be German. He's not an elected politician, like his father. He's an ex-amateur racing driver, racing car manufacture executive and legal adviser who now represents a sporting body. You and other fans may not like him, but he has crossed a moral line, not a legal one. And who's to draw a moral line? The editor of the Daily Mail, who described the sex session as one of "unspeakable depravity."
I can't comment on the bullying that won him the vote of confidence, but that doesn't sound like a crime either. All the stuff about sponsorship and viewing figures is down to the News Of The World, not Max Mosley.
Hi Andrew
I wasn't aware of the finer points of the prostitution laws, so I stand corrected. ;-)
I do agree with your reply and what he chooses to do in his own home or dungeon is entirely up to him, as long as it's not illegal.
A more honourable man would probably have stepped aside for the good of the FIA, but that's another issue.
Out of interest, what would your stance have been if the Nazi angle had been proven?
Cheers
Colin
If it had been proven that the role-play involved the women pretending to be concentration camp guards while Mosley pretended to be a concentration camp inmate, well, that would have been an odd game to play, but one, in private, which hurts nobody. It's all down to whether you think a man or woman's private sexual tastes are a matter of public interest. I would say not. Unless, say, the person is an elected official who advocates values counter to those privately held at home, or a religious leader for the same reasons. Morality is subjective and outside of the law. You do something illegal, you're in the firing line. Pretending to be a Nazi, at home, is not illegal. Prince Harry dressed as a Nazi and was caught on camera - we all thought he was a dimwitted idiot, but he was not arrested, nor asked to step down as a member of the royal family.
you are convinced that you have NO female listeners, well, i am one, but i'm gay, so i don't know if that counts, really.
anyways, my electricity went out last night, and i listened to this podcast by candlelight, which was nice because it gave me something else to concentrate on other than The Dark. so thanks.
That's tremendous news on all counts, Sasha. And as far as I know, being gay still counts as being a woman!
Perhaps we should have a show of hands - any advance on one female listener?
I'm another female listener! But weirdly enough - i'm also sitting over in gay corner. Maybe the theory should change from 'no women listen to the podcast' to 'no women who find men sexually attractive listen to the podcast'.
My sister and i also listen to your podcast regularly! Actually at 14 she's probably one of your youngest listeners.
Danielle
I hope herrings is gonna get the butler to recycle all that plastic.
I have listened to and smiled through every single one of your podcasts, and I too am female (AND heterosexual, tho my sister is gay if that helps) - so that's 5 women and counting!
Also female... also gay. This isn't looking very good for you.
Don't you just love lock'n'locks?
I wouldnt worry. the perfect 10 is dull self-congratulatory bollocks. the fact they have higher production values than you means fuck all.
I'm a female listener and a female reader of both Richard's blog and yours - surely this makes me the winner? :-)
I'm a heterosexual female listener! And I think you're both lovely! :o)
Another female and heteosexual listener here standing up and trying desperately to be counted! Avid listener from the start. Was the lure of the Herrin that got me listening in the first place but now have to admit am now a little bit in love with Mr Collings *blushes*. Your laugh Andrew must be one of the cutest I've ever heard, gets me postively weak at the knees...
I'm also female, heterosexual and a regular listener of the podcast!
I also read Richard's Herring's blog and followed yours before I got into that one (still read yours, don't worry)!
Have also read all three of your memoirs - the best was the first.
Surely the prize must be mine!!
K
From the Ancient Jokes Department:
Customer walks into a butcher's shop
Customer "Do you keep dripping?"
Butcher "Yes"
Customer "Annoying, isn't it?"
Pete
I'm a female, occasional listener. And I'm sure you're both smashing chaps but I haven't gone weak at the knees yet.
Colin, I feel I should point out that Max Mosley did not have a sick Nazi orgy with five hookers. None of the women were prostitutes (two are actually friends of mine), there was no actual orgy, no Nazi theme, and it was not, in my opinion at least, sick. I don't think Mosley should be judged on a consensual BDSM session that should - and, had the Murdoch lot not stuck their oar in, would - have remained private.
Stay lovely, Andrew. I am female and bisexual, so do I count as two fans or half a fan?
Juliet, (aka Lady B on NotBBC) x
Two fans.
Hi Juliet
I didn't actually say he had a 'sick Nazi orgy with five hookers', I presume you're referring the the original News of the World headline.
The point of my initial post was to try to explain the effect it had on F1, which was the question from the podcast.
I only referred to them as prostitutes because Mr Mosley has said money changed hands, as did four of the women in court.
I've no strong views on BDSM either way to be honest.
I agree he has done nothing illegal and I agree the papers should not of exposed it but I cannot feel sorry for the man.
Personally I think his wife is better off knowing who she is really married to, but that's my own 'moral' opinion and has nothing to do with BDSM but fidelity.
I'm a female listener and heterosexual. Disappointed I was too late to get my name read on the podcast!
Laura
I'm a female and love you both (but I fancy Richard a bit more). I'm also meant to be finishing a Philosophy essay.
Incidently you could have counted the female names on your original survey, I'm sure there were quite a few. I might do that for you later if I need to spend some more time not doing this essay.
Kate
I'm female and have listened to every podcast. I'm very fond of Richard, but of course you're my favorite.
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