The One Show
Happy birthday to us! We - that is, the Collings & Herrin Podcast - are one year old! That's 51 podcasts over 52 weeks (don't ask), and in our 49th (don't think too hard about it), we try a Twitter experiment, consider where snow comes from, discuss the origins of the word "Golliwog", have a pretty serious theological debate about Jesus [pictured*], discuss the game of rugby and rise above any comments made against us on iTunes, because that's the kind of seasoned professionals we are. Warning: this podcast is not as good as the scripted, edited, produced, satirical radio show On The Hour. We're sorry about that. Although not as sorry as Carol Thatcher, who is the sorriest person around.* Actually, you might think that's an effigy of Jesus, but it's actually an effigy of Richard Herring.
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Why the on the hour mention? does Rich get anything from the new cd release?
Not on iTunes yet. Got a long drive tomorrow and need just one more podcast to add to the listening stack.
Congratulations on making it through a full year.
I can't believe it's a whole year since I downloaded that first one, listened to it whilst doing the washing up and wondered if it would pick up a bit next time.
Luckily it did and I'm glad I stuck with it, it's been my podcast highlight.
Yes, even over Adam and Joe. Although they are jolly good too. And The Perfect Ten. That's good too.
The dispute about the number of podcasts may be solved by reminding you that when you started doing it you done it fortnightly.
Idiots!!
Stephen
It's an effigy of Jesus and he is clearly indicating the size of his Holy penis. Humble cock indeed.
He seems quite proud of the size!
Zoltan Zander.
Awww, Buddy Christ! I'm gonna have to go and watch Dogma now
Regarding this weeks podcast, I have to say I found it both ridiculous and actually quite annoying, that you both refused to use the word 'nigger' in any context and danced your way around it like a couple of crabs tip-toeing on eggshells. You seem to be rather fond of discussing words people have used and where they are on a scale of offensiveness (as if there is an offical chart somehwere)
It's ironic that Richard particularly is quite happy to call your mother and others 'cunts' on a regular basis,a word which used to be THE taboo, and still is in may circles, it's seems that for your circle 'nigger' is apparently the new 'cunt'.
Sure, he's calling them cunts as a joke, but he'd never called any one a nigger for a joke would he?
So has the word 'nigger' now become so taboo that it's socially and morally illegal to utter it in any context?
You do realise that by behaving in that way you are simply giving the word more and more power to shock and offend when it IS used? It won't go away, it'll just get stronger.
Surely a distinction has to be drawn between using the word to refer to a black person, and on the other hand, simply using the word as a word.
So if you stick a pin in that effigy, does Richard Herring scream?
Congratulations on your podcast's first birthday.
Surely he's indicating the size of the nails. Either that or you've lost the catapult he's supposed to be holding.
I actually stopped listening to the podcasts just because there weren't enough references to otters and (possibly real) people living in Solihull.
In a piece in today's Independent about how there's no excuse for Carol Thatcher's lazy racism, Matthew Norman suggests that golliwog is: "...offensive both to black people and to the civilised of any colour." Whoops.
Interesting point, Rod, if rather angrily put. We made a value judgment and refrained from saying "nigger" on the podcast. So sue us. When I quoted the word "Paki" - once - in a recent podcast, it felt very odd indeed even to be quoting an offensive racial epithet. I'm afraid neither of us is comfortable with such racial epithets. Even in the context of a light-hearted podcast they seem wrong.
Best podcast ever! But only because my username and comments on your previous podcast's blog entry get mentioned. Least ways, I think my username was mentioned - my ears pricked up and my earphones fell out.
Good job I'm not a TV personality; just the other week I made a joke to a friend, asking if perhaps some misguided Americans might possibly be selling Barack Obama souvenir golliwogs. Who knew I was subconsciously channelling Carol Thatcher?
"When I quoted the word "Paki" - once - in a recent podcast, it felt very odd indeed even to be quoting an offensive racial epithet."
But it sounds worse when every newsreader and pundit in the country keeps having to repeat that sort of thing. It comes to something when you can't even listen to the Radio 4 news without being offended by the repeated use of racially offensive words. Honestly, there'll be a race row about "fuzzy-wuzzies" next week and we'll be hearing the word more than in all the Dad's Army repeats put together.
Apropos of nothing, have you ever listened to the Answer Me This Podcast? A lot of cool stuff to go around. Just wondering what collings and herring (as podcast peers) make of it...
Andrew, I'm glad you appreciated my little gift of the controversially moustachioed duck. It is a genuine photo that I found on the Internet, not photoshopped, so out there somewhere...
Did Herrin also show you the link to the live duck webcam?
Oh and re. the comments above, it even feels quite unsettling typing "Hitler1889".
You might have come across this, fan Kevin Murphy has created the Collings and Herrin drinking game:
http://texturbation.com/blog/?p=952
As I was listening to the discussion about the origins of the word "golliwog", I looked it up on Wikipedia and after stumbling around a bit found that Agnetha Faltskog released a single called Golliwog in 1974.
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=matcPPDrbLw
Blimey. "I know that your kind drives me wild". "Your kind"?
I find myself rather confusingly agreeing with both Rod and Andrew about using racially sensitive words. I would nearly always agree with Rod that just using the words shouldn't be a problem, and it did sound odd to hear Andrew and Richard skirting around certain words on the podcast.
However, I'm Australian and when I heard Andrew and Richard use the word "abo" a few weeks ago to refer to Australian Aborigines (in a jokey kind of way and not really disrespectfully), I felt sick in the stomach. It just sounded so wrong and all my ideas of word just being words flew out the window.
So good on you Andrew for following your own instincts.
Just occured to me, if Carol Thatcher and Jonathon Ross had a child together (don't worry, I know it can't really happen). Would that child ever get a fair job interview at the BBC?
Indeed, if the BBC is so anti the Thatcher dynasty, as she keeps claiming, how comes Carol got offered a job there in the first place?.
Just some thoughts.....
Claire
If Carol Thatcher and Jonathan Ross had a child together I fear no-one would be able to understand a word of what it said.
Also, just out of interest, Athena in Bristol have a range of Golliwog themed items, so one doesn't have to go all the way to Sandringham.
Richard Herrin looks more like Jesus than that rather scary Jesus figurine.It looks rather like a thinner Bluto from Popeye with a mullet!
PS Just seen the episode of Not Going Out tonight that was billed as being co-written by you, Andrew. Really funny but why all that intrusive canned laughter?
S
I didn't know you were involved in Not Going Out... I raced for the remote when I realised a new (ish) BBC Sitcom was about to start... I may give it a try... I may stop putting three full stops to indicate trepidation...
I find, My Familiy, Three Pints, Coupling, Green Green Grass, While You were Gone and Life of Riley - et al more offensive than many racial colloquialisms.
Argh! Th tyranny of the masses sees the bitrate go back to 128kbps. I suppose you can't argue with democracy.
Although I do question Spaced1999's comments about hearing the birdsong. Many of the BBC's spoken word podcasts are at 64kbps and on the In Our Time podcasts you can clearly hear water jugs being poured and change being rustled, despite the lower bitrate.
Congratulations on making one whole year of podcasts.
I've only recently discovered the Collings + Herrin podcasts. I have been making my way through them from Episode 1 to present day by listening to them in on the way to work in the car.
They have been very enjoyable. Though I can't imagine listening to (on average) two of these podcasts a day is healthy for my soul.
Wowser: I'm sure that's true, but I don't think the BBC uses GarageBand's defaults to do the encoding. I've heard some MP3s of radio shows that sound brilliant even at bitrates as low as 32kbps, but podcast 48 just didn't sound as good as it could have.
If Andrew wants to experiment a bit, perhaps he should try encoding to 64kbps mono or mucking around with variable bitrates, but really, if it ain't broke...
Anyone ever wonder what Richard Herring does between podcasts? See
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnPf9BTO5F0
To find out!
Andrew Collins invented Twitter!
In "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now", he describes how he communicated with his social community at college. He'd leave notes on his door to tell people what he was doing. Other people also posted their notes. Anyone walking by could read them.
Twitter took that simple idea and cut out the walking. While eating lunch I noticed that Stephen Fry arrived back safely from dinner to his hotel in LA. Hopefully Phill Jupitus will be waking up soon.... (wallop?)
This isn't really the right place for this comment but I'd just like to say I really enjoyed the "Not Going Out" Episode "Winner". I do like the show but I have also got some problems with it too, mainly the flat they stay in must cost a fortune! What does Tim's sister do for a living to be able to afford such a place!!
However I thought the recent episode co-written by Andrew Collins was a corker!
Zoltan Zander
The reason the other 64kpbs podcasts sound great is because they're saved in mono. I know I mentioned this in the comments of the last podcast, but do try and get your webnerd to look at it. I've tried converting a few of the 128kpbs stereo C&H podcasts to 64kpbs mono myself, and they sound exactly the same! The only difference is that the filesize is halved.
Any chance of the bloody decent microphone being used one day?
You've already got it, and Macs are fantastical and work so you shouldn't have problems.
If you can't do it, just get herring to turn to the geek army on twitter to help.
On the topic of race, I was reading this afternoon that Barack Obama has a half-brother called Abo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama#Extended_family_-_paternal_relations
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